As it happens each year, I sat down to go over my taxes, and as part of that, assess how I made out on vehicles that were sold. The topic of whether you can make money on old / vintage vehicles has long been a point of contention for some enthusiasts, especially those defending their hobby to spouses who might otherwise suggest a re-allocation of spending. God help any of us boxed into that corner. You're going to need a SWAT team to emerge unscathed.
Still, it bears analysis, especially since plenty of brokers and flippers seemingly make a decent living out of buying and selling interesting vehicles. In my case, I rarely buy anything for a flip; I mostly buy what interests me and if I can make money on it on the other side, great. The three cars sold in 2024 were my 1999 Porsche 911 C2; a 1995 Audi S6 Wagon; and a 1997 Lexus LX450 (80-Series Land Cruiser.)
Can you make money on enthusiast vehicles? Yes, but it requires a careful assessment of market conditions and the state of the car or truck you're buying.
The complicated math of time versus money
The rough math shows that the 911 lost about $9,000; the S6 $6,300; and the LX450, $8,000. These are all very round numbers. There's a reason all of these vehicles were sold, and one of the primary drivers was their long-term value appreciation seemed low, and that is a rule I do live by, which is that anything I keep for an extended period, occupying useful real estate and space in my brain, must have a strong likelihood of future appreciation.
The 996, despite losing the most, was the least painful. Why? Because those expenses represented about a grand total of 3 services to do peace-of-mind maintenance when my budget allowed. Addressing a noisy chain tensioner, replacing the air oil separator, repairing some oil leaks, and refinishing the curbed wheels really didn't suck up any of my time beyond bringing it to the shop. And, at the end of the day, I didn't need to do those repairs - but it seems prudent to do so, especially given the litany of concerns the Porsche crowd has stirred up about the 996's tendency to self-implode.
The annoyance factor of repairs is a very real consideration for me. If it's easy to make the car better, and doesn't entail a bunch of other while you're in there fixes, my ability to enjoy the vehicle without fear of breakdown just went up significantly.
The Audi was in the middle of the time/money equation. I liked the Audi, a lot, and had a great experience recovering it from Martha's Vineyard with the help of a good friend. However, the parts supply for the Audi has grown very thin, even for common replacement items like brake calipers. In addition, this car had very rough paint which basically made it impossible to ever eek out a win profit-wise because it would occur to any future buyer that the car needed a full respray to present well. However, I did buy this car for a very low amount ($1,500) which is why there was the smallest loss of the three vehicles. While the work done did increase my enjoyment of the car, all of it was also necessary to both drive well and make it easy to sell to the next owner. The 911, however, could have been used and sold without doing any of the work I did, and likely for not much of a hit to the sale price.
The last one is the LX 450. This truck consumed a crap-ton of resources, mostly because I made the decision to rebuild the engine once we discovered a massive headgasket leak had been long festering. A few years ago, a mechanic friend of mine recommended simply selling it with the issues disclosed and moving on, effectively cutting my losses. I should have listened to him. While the truck emerged as a fine example of an 80 Series rig once all was said and done, the market for the 80 Series dipped sharply after the COVID surge in pricing ended, and while you might say it would have been difficult to predict that happening while prices were high, the amount of work required to make it a usable rig was also so extensive that the likelihood of future profit was effectively impossible.
One side note on the 80 Series: I did get to accomplish my goal of driving it on the beach on Martha's Vineyard before my family and I relocated to Maryland, so on the basis of simply enjoying a vehicle's natural capabilities without losing sleep over ROI, the Lexus performed admirably - and did so before the headgasket failure became evident, showcasing its impressive durability driving over sand dunes while guzzling coolant.
Can you win with project vehicles? Yes.
In my next installment, I'll talk about a few cars I've owned (and some I still do) that are still "net positives" in terms of money spent and current market value, along with one that was my biggest windfall financially to date despite being a massive project.
While these results are heavily dictated by market conditions (and right now, things are not exactly rosy), it goes to show that even huge undertakings can be worthwhile endeavors if the initial investment is low and the timing works out in your favor.
More to come!