TCG Stories

By: Jeff, 04/17/2023

For a while now, there’s been speculation that the math doesn’t add up on Bring A Trailer. Incredible sales results for cars that would seemingly struggle to hit those same numbers on the pages of craigslist or eBay have raised eyebrows to the point that the peanut gallery has begun lobbing accusations of money laundering and other primetime crime drama buzzwords.

The most recent display of the zaniness of online auctions has to do with three near-identical examples of the Jaguar Super V8 Portfolio sedan. First, there was the 18,000 miles example that sold for $156,000; it was followed and one-upped by a 2009 model with 24,000 miles for $175,000; and then, in the final act of the Super V8 Portfolio live on Broadway, a 2009 example with 18,000 miles shot back down to Earth and sold for still insane $90,000 (but at least we’re back down in to the five-figure range).

Let’s look at this: two cars, separated by 14 days, and both the same year with the same mileage sell with a swing of $66,000 between the two of them! And not only that, the example with the most miles between the three of them sells for more than either of the other two. This is where the BaT model simply incinerates on re-entry for me as there’s no rational explanation for such a variance between three low-mileage examples of the same model in effectively the same condition.

…..except, of course, that the second bidder was heavily influenced by the decision of the first bidder to exceed the last price for a low-mileage 2009 Super V8 Portfolio (21K miles, October ‘21) by a whopping $112,750! This is what I believe is the underlying reason for so many wonky sales results: bidders don’t bid on logic, but rather on the behaviors of other bidders. As we’ve discussed recently, the big timers can withstand a few losses, but for the medium- or little-guy who gets caught up in the bidding battle, they can find themselves on the losing end of a winning bid when they agree to a price that has no basis on reality; only the feeding frenzy of a competitive online auction.

By: Jeff, 04/10/2023

At some point in the past two years, almost every car enthusiast has looked at a sale price on Bring A Trailer and said, “Wow - I never thought that car would sell for that much cash.” We’ve discussed it here on occasion, and I’ve taken the position that the 1 percent crowd can do as they please with money, even if that means spending more for a particular model than anyone else has in recorded history.

But for those of us of more ordinary means, the stakes are very different. You can’t repeatedly lose your shirt on a car. My friend Rudy Samsel runs an auction website called Guys With Rides that provides a dealer-free marketplace and strives to put a bit of fairness back into the collector vehicle acquisition process. He flagged a 1987 Porsche 944 Turbo as a prime example of the risks of buying an enthusiast vehicle without paying sufficient attention to market valuation and VIN decoding.

The reason he took notice of the car had to do with the fact that the seller was putting the 944 up for grabs himself - not on BaT - within eight months of acquiring it at a price that reflected a loss of over $12,000 when factoring in maintenance costs and the buyer’s premium that BaT charges.

The 944 was labeled as being an elusive Turbo model wearing “Silver Rose” paint when in fact it was a slightly more common Diamond Blue Metallic example. BaT didn’t do much to confirm or deny this, including not requiring the previous owner to include a photo of the trim tag that would quickly put to bed any concerns over whether this was, in fact, a desirable Silver Rose car. To some extent, this is the risk inherent in any sight-unseen purchase done over the internet, but when you factor in buying a car this way along with the tendency to overpay by virtue of the selling platform’s so-called reputation, it can create a perfect storm of unintended consequences for the future owner.

The playing field is not even, unfortunately, on platforms like BaT and numerous others. If you can afford to drop six-figures with the same recklessness as one might spend on great seats at a sporting event, overpaying on a 944 Turbo with unverified history won’t cause you to have a fire-sale a few months later on a car that isn’t what you thought it was. For Joe Six Pack and other “normal” collectors, you may indeed have to encourage a quick sale with a potential loss factored in to get out from under.

No matter your lot in life or how tempting it is to get wild in an internet auction with thousands of virtual cheerleaders, there’s no shame in being cautious and sitting one out when the information required to make an informed decision isn’t provided. The more of us who are only willing to punch the “bid” button with the right information in hand will drive auction sites to ensure data and authenticity drive higher bid prices rather than an internet mob that bears no responsibility when it comes time to sell for a market-correct price.

By: Jeff, 04/06/2023

I remain fixated on the car storage market for a few reasons: one, it is a relatively new arena for the hobby with seemingly more room for competitors and future growth. Two, it is basically taking the standard storage unit model (where you chuck all the excess crap from your house) but applying it to the challenge of maintaining on-site storage for your project car fleet. The actual facility is a glorified warehouse with a shiny wrapper around it that seemingly justifies a premium price for access.

Hagerty has once again raced to the front of this burgeoning business model by claiming territory in a few key geographies (meaning well-capitalized car collectors live there). The newest club is in Miami and looks like a great time: beautiful location, outdoor patios, comfortable social gathering spaces, gearhead-focused décor, and of course, the tropical backdrop of south Florida.

The rate card lists $650/month as the price for car storage and access to the social calendar. For $125, you can leave your car at home and simply have access to the facility and the monthly events. If you look around at your average local car storage lot/facility (meaning, a storage unit at your local UHaul or UHaul-clone), the price is far lower. There’s also no real luxury attached to it and certainly no wine and cheese nights.

The question I struggle with is this: is Hagerty filling those spots easily, or is it a long, slow slog to max out capacity? The monthly fee is not cheap, so you’re certainly a customer of some means if you’re taking Hagerty up on the offer for a premium space with a variety of services on site you may never actually use (detailing, mechanical services, shipping and logistics.) The social component is a take-it-or-leave-it offer for me, as I’d much rather be driving than talking (and last I checked, most Cars & Coffee gatherings are still free to attend.)

However, like the six-figure W124 and Jaguar Super V8 we recently discussed, this is a meaningless amount of money for the super wealthy to consider spending each month for the convenience of a turnkey storage facility catering to other high-end clientele. Which serves as a reminder as to how much of this hobby is being built around the needs of the 1 percent club - and how the rest of us will need to either cough up the dough for a storage experience that is several rungs above the local self-storage facility or find our own way to mimic the Hagerty experience at a lower price point.

By: Jeff, 03/30/2023

This week, we learned that Robert "Bob" Ingram, owner of the Ingram Collection and father to Cam who runs esteemed Porsche shop Road Scholars, had passed away. 

Bob is a well-known figure in the Porsche community, both for sharing his collection with the world and for being a regular fixture at concours events around the country. Numerous Porsches, both those owned by the Ingram Collection and examples restored by Road Scholars, have taken top honors at some of the most celebrated events in the country, from Pebble Beach to Amelia Island. 

Ingram was a highly successful pharmaceutical executive who took his love of Porsches and built it into one of the foremost names in collection management and restoration. From historically-significant track cars to some of the rarest and highly preserved air-cooled models on the planet, it's safe to say the Ingram Collection has been touched by some of the best Porsches in existence.

What I love about Road Scholars and the Ingram approach is the commitment to preserving history, and I don't mean just original body panels and numbers-matching engines (though they certainly make that a priority.) They focus intently on the story of the car - its first owner, and subsequent owners, and how it was used. Frankly, they go over the top in their efforts to uncover as much history as they can, and it's the reason I'm such a fan of the entire operation. 

Bob Ingram is no one one I knew personally, but I certainly understand the passion he had for vintage sports cars - and it seems like his son will carry the torch just fine. 

By: Jeff, 03/28/2023

I've said for a while that we will see a seismic shift in the specialty shop landscape in the coming years as the independent repair facilities that service enthusiast marques will begin to disappear as the owners begin to retire. Like everything else, enthusiasts will increasingly be forced to either give up their cars or begin shipping them to a handful of high-end facilities not necessarily conveniently located. 

This is, admittedly, a prediction at best. But as a small Citroen repair facility in upstate New York goes to show, it's already beginning to happen, with no clear indication that a next-generation owner is waiting in the wings. Dave Burnham Citroen is a well-loved name in the French car universe, and as someone who owned a Peugeot for a brief spell, I had his info saved in case I ever needed to be bailed out of a car that I was deeply afraid of breaking. 

Thankfully, I dumped the 505 Estate, but many other French car enthusiasts are exceedingly loyal to their weapon of choice - but they're intimidated by working on these oddballs, and for good reason. To lose a guy like Dave is to make the deciding whether it's worth keeping a car that has next to no specialist support and a limited parts network. My long-term shop in Rhode Island specializes in German automobiles and shows no immediate signs of slowing down, but the owner is in his early 60s and his brother approaching 70 (and one heart attack already in the books.) It's an incredibly tenuous situation. Fortunately, another European specialist won't be impossible to find should my chosen specialist decide to retire, but it's never the same. How can it be? 

With dealerships showing no interest in supporting older models and a lack of talent coming out of the tech schools that want to work on anything that doesn't involve plugging into an OBD II port, the writing is on the wall. Today, it's Dave Burnham Citroen, which will impact a small number of enthusiasts - but tomorrow, might it be your neighborhood specialist that always gives you a break on parts and can solve problems over the phone? 

By: Jeff, 03/25/2023

We all know that the vintage car market has gone somewhat bonkers as of late, fueled by a period of pandemic premium pricing that, like inflation, has shown little sign of cooling off. In fact, it’s getting increasingly difficult to enter into the collector car marketplace with less than $20,000 to burn in order to find a vehicle you can both own and later sell for a profit.

While it’s certainly not all about making a killing, there is some comfort that comes from knowing your four-wheeled investment isn’t a money-losing proposition. And like everything in life, it takes money to make money, and buying at the sub-$10,000 level doesn’t necessarily guarantee you a significant amount of “flip” potential unless your purchase price is near zero (which can happen.)

So, then - what about a sign? Porcelain signs from the gas stations and factories of yesteryear are commanding very strong money at all of today’s major auctions, which have seemingly added an entire segment of the auction catalog to automobilia. While these venues are challenging to find a deal in, there are numerous off-the-grid farm auctions happening near every weekend if you know where to look.

Miller & Miller’s March 11 auction in Ontario saw a pair of “White Rose” gasoline service station signs sell for a heady $63,130. A Dodge Trucks / DeSoto porcelain neon sign netted the seller a healthy $5,900. A Canadian 1930s Red Indian Gasoline porcelain sign, expected to sell for between $7,000 and $9,000, blasted through its estimate to land at close to $13,000.

While the appeal of vintage garage decor has been known for years, now it’s a potential avenue for enthusiasts to explore as a way to enjoy the hobby and make some money - and just like a well-maintained car, provenance is key when it comes to buying the best and most desirable signage.

By: Jeff, 03/19/2023

My E30 finally felt weak. After years of having it as turnkey, classic driver that could sit idle for months at a time and be pressed into duty at a moment's notice, I had to admit that compared to some of the other vehicles in my fleet, it felt a touch tired. 

The 325is has been with me longer than another car I've ever owned, going back to 2011 or so. I bought it at a time when I needed a distraction, and my brother was a huge influence in buying the car and subsequently bringing it back to life. Once it was a healthy running and driving car, it came back to Rhode Island and was the catalyst for a relationship with a local shop that has now seen many of my project cars pass through its doors.

In looking back at it, I realized I sank quite a bit into this E30 ten years ago now and haven't spent a whole lot on it ever since. It reminded me that I've abandoned the incremental approach to vintage car maintenance, choosing to go all in (or close to all in) early on - suffer that financial pain - and then get years of enjoyment out of it, hopefully not spending a whole lot in the years that follow. 

Check out my maintenance table here on The Common Gear, where you can digitally track your maintenance and build your car portfolio. It reveals exactly what I thought it would, that I went pretty deep into the car in 2013-2014 and have only made modest investments in it ever since. It seems perfectly fair that it may need another dose of servicing after not getting much beyond whatever needed fixing, or some unnecessary service to address a nice-to-have like air conditioning. 

So what do you think: is the big infusion of resources at one time worth the trade-off of several years' worth of enjoyment, or should we invest in vintage cars on a more staggered basis? I don't think there's a wrong answer but I do I like getting to a point of using a car regularly without concerns of an imminent major mechanical failure due to an area of neglect.

By: Jeff, 03/17/2023

If you don't already know, The Common Gear is a passion project of mine to transform how enthusiasts track their maintenance and investments in a hobby or classic car. I've been fanatical about record-keeping with all of my cars, even the ones barely worth the cost of a tank of gas. I like knowing how the car has evolved in my care, and I really enjoy sharing that story with whoever decides to own it after me. 

Of course, as an entrepreneur, you're constantly wondering if you've made a bad bet or if someone else is going to eclipse you. I've seen this in my corporate work life where good ideas are quickly taken by your peers and passed off as their own. It doesn't typically worry me because my community - my local team - knows where those ideas bubbled up from. There are competitors in this space but I'm not terribly worried about them because flashy apps are often created with little thought given to whether there's a community out there that wants to use it. And as one digital auction site has proven, the community you keep matters more than almost anything else. 

Bring a Trailer often gets lauded with praise for being the ultimate auction site. But many of us remember that is not how the platform got started. BaT is a WordPress site that was basically a glorified craigslist blog. There is no app. Yet according to a recent Wall Street Journal article, the digital auction house is now a billion-dollar marketplace. In that same article, one of the well-heeled regular bidders on the site and a current University of Chicago business school professor cites two key reasons for BaT's success: building a community of interest and upending the economics of the auction business. 

And there it is: community. The economics side of it is obvious but it's the social contract that's far harder to create. It's why in-person auctions have always been a thrill for attendees, who go as much to see the cars as to see old friends. Cars & Bids is approaching it from another angle, which is via the following Doug DeMuro has amassed thanks to his YouTube channel where regular "viewers" feel like they're watching a close friend build an auction business. If you didn't see the thousands of congratulatory comments he received when C&B received a sizable investment and he bought his dream car, a Carrera GT, you should. It's powerful stuff. 

For anyone of you reading who knows me personally (or at least feel like you do), I invite you to share your project updates and log your visual records with The Common Gear, or TCG as we call it. We'll keep your data safe and give you a place to go when it's time to sit back and take stock of your project car progress. And when it comes time to sell it, just take your custom URL and drop it into the craigslist ad or the auction listing comments where everyone out there can see first-hand the incredible work you've done. 

The shiny stuff matters, but so do the handshakes, fist bumps, and camaraderie that come standard with enthusiast car ownership. 

By: Jeff, 03/14/2023

One claim we hear an awful lot about these days is the prospect of money laundering on Bring a Trailer, especially in the case of auctions wherein a car or truck sells for far more than expected. Like any entity that becomes the top dog in a given market, it's not long before the lines in the sand are drawn and the knives are sharpened. It's part of the human condition; we must go after the people or things sitting in the position we wish to occupy. 

I am not an expert on how the truly wealthy spend or hide their money. I am confident there's some aspect of money shuffling or money hiding that helps them escape some level of tax burdens the rest of us sack up and pay each year. But a commenter on a recent auction wherein a W124-chassis Mercedes-Benz E320 sold for an eye-watering amount (north of $150,000) made a prolific point I'll not soon forget:

"I’m happy for the result and for all parties involved and viewing. It helps to provide any casual observer that passion is not dead for these cars! Well done by all. A few points to consider… There are several banks paying 5% on CDs today. There are 3300+ billionaires in the world now. 10 times more than in the year 2000. $1,000,000,000 x 5% = $136,986 interest income for ONE DAY! Do you think none of these individuals have and drive cars? Everyone reading this post could have wood or linoleum countertops in their kitchens. But you don’t, do you? It’s all relative. Don’t be quick to judge others under your own circumstances."

I don't think I live under a rock but I'll be honest - I never considered just how much money a billionaire makes while their money sits in the bank. Collecting enough interest in one day that easily outpaces many annual salaries is a truly impressive spectacle, but it also happens far more than we think - and that says nothing about the "mere" millionaires who still clear a very respectable amount in interest, certainly enough to warrant more than the occasional fun money purchase on Bring a Trailer. 

For years, two things happened: we only saw car auctions through the lens of Mecum and Barrett-Jackson, and we never gave non-collector cars in outstanding condition an opportunity to shine in an auction-style format. Bring a Trailer made the large auction house result possible for non-collector cars and trucks and opened up the specialty vehicle marketplace to anyone, any time, anywhere. 

While it's tempting, and perhaps, comforting to think that these auction results are the stuff of financial hijinks, there's an equal possibility that we're simply peeking behind the curtain for the first time of how the world's elite spend their money. 

By: Jeff, 03/10/2023

Tell us we're right without telling us we're right. The need for documentation, particularly among high-end collector vehicles, is more important than ever - especially as the premier vehicle auction services move to increasingly digital formats. You're buying a car that potentially costs north of six figures, so leaving any stone unturned is a major risk. 

Porsche recently announced the debut of its Porsche Vehicle Documentation service. This is a two-pronged offer, which focuses on the Porsche Product Specifications (PPS), which contains "....your vehicle's original production card specifications, including optional equipment, exterior and interior color, engine and transmission type, production completion date and manufacturer's suggested retail price when available."

The second tier of the service is Classic Technical Certificate (CTC). The CTC "....includes original vehicle data at the time it was delivered, such as date of production, exterior and interior color, interior material, and option equipment."

Porsche is addressing the fact that owners want to know more about their cars, and they want it in an electronic format. While the Certificate of Authenticity (COA) has been offered for years, it's a fairly manual process. By taking the simple step to move these services into an online, all-digital format, Porsche is signaling how critical digital documentation is to the future of collector and vintage vehicles. 

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By: Jeff, 12/01/2023

Brief

First of all, this is not a Bring a Trailer "hate post." Not at all. What it is serves more as a reminder that the bigger an entity gets, the greater the distance becomes between its intended mission and the people it claims to serve. Pierre Hedary, a noted Mercedes-Benz expert and shop owner, has politely pointed out recently that he's received an influx of customer cars bought on BaT with significant, undisclosed mechanical issues, and for that, he's been called out by the internet flash mob. 

You should watch his latest video here; as usual, Pierre is extremely measured in his response, and does very little (if anything) to fan inflammatory flames. The most hilarious feedback he's received since his original video questioning the BaT effect (Why Bring A Trailer Cars are a Terrible Ideais that he's some sort of closeted liberal, which of course, is the knee-jerk response by anyone who feels personally attacked that their open checkbook lifestyle is risky at best ("Oooh, you dare question my purchasing power, you must be a poor liberal schmuck - please), but beyond that, it's incredible how insecure folks get when someone dares question whether BaT has any integrity whatsoever about the vehicles they sell. 

Listen: buying vintage cars and trucks is inherently risky behavior. Things can go wrong in a big way and you can be upside down in a hurry. That's the roll of the dice we all live with. The problem that Pierre points to is a very simple disconnect between the BaT brand and the buying experience that many real-world folks are having. BaT has, intentionally or otherwise, built a reputation that indicates they have the ability to connect buyers with the best cars and most professional sellers. If you buy on BaT, you avoid the supposed refuse that haws their wares on craigslist and Marketplace. 

The reality is, this simply isn't true. Are there good cars on BaT? Yes. Are there good cars on craigslist? Yes. Are their total shitboxes in both places? Yes to that as well - but if you say it about BaT, be prepared for the pitchforks. 

Many of the loyalists to BaT are the same kinds of folks who would chastise people of a certain political stripe for ardently following an elected official without asking enough questions. The irony is they don't practice what they preach as it relates to buying and selling cars, so many of them are hypocritical at best. To date, I have sold three cars on BaT and have never bought a single one of the eight vehicles I own on their platform. With few exceptions, I have been pleasantly surprised by every vehicle I own, but that's because I'm buying the seller, not the car - and that is a dynamic that's near impossible to create on BaT, where both the seller and the company leadership refuse to stand behind their products once the hammer is down and the wire transfer is complete. 

By: Jeff, 05/19/2023

Brief

Hey everyone - we're excited to share with you the first in a series of instructional videos on how to use The Common Gear to store digitized records of the maintenance and improvements you're making to your collector and vintage-grade cars and trucks. 

One of our primary test users, Lars, has a 1988 BMW 325is he's been logging updates of since he bought the car last summer. From road trips to oil changes, he captures vital details about his car's history that will be useful for his own tracking purposes, or if he decides to sell the car later on. 

Check out the video below for quick overview of how he uses The Common Gear for his own maintenance tracking, and watch this space for more quick instructional videos on how to put The Common Gear to work for you. 

By: Jeff, 02/21/2023

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YouTube personality Tyler Hoover has been a breath of fresh air in talking candidly about his automotive purchases - the good, the bad, and the ugly. While his platform already had plenty of fame from his rapid-fire purchasing tendencies, he gained perhaps even more notoriety by being one of the first automotive celebrities to talk about a horrific experience buying an expensive restomod on BaT, and having it all go horribly wrong. 

If any of you follow this world, Hoover purchased a restomod version of the iconic wing car, the Plymouth Superbird. He also produced a widely shared YouTube video wherein he discusses the numerous undisclosed flaws with the car, including a suspension so poorly tuned that the car was virtually undrivable. It led to a dust-up of sorts that prompted BaT to refund the buyer's fee. There's just one problem: it happened again. 

This time, the stakes were lower: a $19,000 Citroen ID19, purchased from BaT. The car arrived with non-functioning rear brakes, several undisclosed leaks, and suspension in generally poor order. Are these repairs out of the question for an older vehicle (and a French one, no less?) No, not necessarily. But the listing shows a video of the car running and driving with relative ease, which seemingly glosses over the fact that it doesn't stop. The seller provides no details on the car's mechanical health and the listing includes zero service records. This should have been a red flag for the buyer, but he also likely thought he was buying a good car with $20,000 fewer dollars in his bank account. 

Check out the listing here and Hoovie's video on the car below; we wonder if BaT will again step in to make lemonade out of lemons: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-citroen-ds-id19/

By: Jeff, 02/08/2023

Brief

Against my better judgment, we created a short video with zero editing (straight raw, as the cool kids say....maybe?) that explains what the mission of The Common Gear is.

Simply put, we built this site to securely store digitized records for our vintage and collector cars. We wanted to never again wonder where that invoice or window sticker went, or have anyone question the level of sweat equity put into a car project.

Store your records with The Common Gear. Log your project updates. Create a portal whereby you can share a secure URL with potential buyers who may want to buy your car / motorcycle / boat / etc., and plug it into auction sites should you choose to go that way. We'll bet you'll see your desired bottom dollar, if not a few more bucks. 

Reach out to jeff@thecommongear.com with questions, and thanks for checking us out. 

By: john, 07/28/2022
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So yeah, there is an E9 in my garage that is pretty sweet.  And, I have to remember not to take for granted the things I am fortunate enough to have, so I'm not going to do that.  HOWEVER, I have this thing for E24 M6 hotness, especially the euro-delivery sleds, with the M88, slim bumpers, and sexiness that is the little sister to the beautiful E9 that lives in my garage. 

Check it out...

By: john, 02/02/2022
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Per the Boston Globe, apparently Tesla can't figure out how to drive in Boston either.  From a 2/1/22 article "Self-driving Tesla does ‘the craziest things you can imagine’: Boston man’s viral video shows autopilot dangers",  a Boston man’s viral video shows autopilot dangers (or maybe Boston dangers....?).  

"You have no idea what it's going to do next."

I do find this kinda hilarious, simply because of the hubris that exists with tech buttholes who think that they can code around human behavior.  If there's a self-driving crucible in the U.S., it's def Boston.